[40Rouge]

I think so.

I started a hitch thread a few weeks ago and it got moved into this big one. As much as there are duplicated threads for the Sport, you'd think we'd be able to start separate threads for the LWB. If you look a few posts up, I had a little laugh about it getting moved.

I know 90% of the topics are shared between the two models, but things like the hitch, running boards, exhaust, V6, etc., will need their own threads soon enough.

 

[angelo]

May I suggest the thread title start with LWB? e.g. "LWB Tow Hitch". Then those not interested in the LWB don't have to read the whole title.

Great idea, I vote for this solution.
Also, members should make sure to specify their model/trim/packages in their user profile.

I am very interested in MPG threads... that is a particular case where I would encourage a new thread for each engine size: 2.4, 2.0T, 3.5.

 

[luck11]

Great idea, I vote for this solution.
Also, members should make sure to specify their model/trim/packages in their user profile.

+1...to both John's and Angelo's suggestions.

I started a hitch thread a few weeks ago and it got moved into this big one.

Actually, the combining of your hitch thread into this one was the primary impetus for my suggestion to start creating separate "LWB" threads.

 

[golfermack]

+1...to both John's and Angelo's suggestions.

Actually, the combining of your hitch thread into this one was the primary impetus for my suggestion to start creating separate "LWB" threads.

Luck, you deserve the credit. It was your idea. I simply moved the "LWB" from the end to the front of the thread title.

:clap::clap::clap: to Luck.
John

 

[Em-squared]

If the only diff between the LWB and the non is the length of the wheelbase, I don't see the need to diverge.

As some of you may know, as the Elantra mod, I do not have separate subforums for Elantra and Elantra Coupe because they are almost identical from the cockpit perspective, with minor cosmetic differences aside from the obvious difference in door count. We do have a separate subforum for Elantra GT, but that's because the GT actually has significant differences both inside and out from the sedan and the coupe.

If you split it up over something like a wheelbase, then you force the members going for advice relevant for BOTH models to have to browse two separate subforums to find information.

Just my two cents.

 

[luck11]

If the only diff between the LWB and the non is the length of the wheelbase, I don't see the need to diverge.

As some of you may know, as the Elantra mod, I do not have separate subforums for Elantra and Elantra Coupe because they are almost identical from the cockpit perspective, with minor cosmetic differences aside from the obvious difference in door count. We do have a separate subforum for Elantra GT, but that's because the GT actually has significant differences both inside and out from the sedan and the coupe.

If you split it up over something like a wheelbase, then you force the members going for advice relevant for BOTH models to have to browse two separate subforums to find information.

Just my two cents.

Thanks, but they are significantly different in many ways. The front to the B-pillar is about the same, but the rest is different, including the 5 vs 6 or 7 seating configuration, sheet metal, lights in the rear, hitch etc. Furthermore, the LWB has a 6cyl vs the 4 cyl engines in the Sport. Now, I agree that perhaps a sub forum has its disadvantages as you say, but on the other hand, it would also help "unclutter" the main forum from additional threads at are only LWB specific. Anyway, either way works for me, as long as LWB specific threads are created and not moved/merged into this one.

 

[Seppo]

You should create the new 'DM 2013+ Santa Fe LWB' subforum under Veracruz forum, since that's what LWB really is, a new, renamed (due to brand recognition reasons) VC. The decision to keep the long and short WB versions of the same platform (Santa Fe vs VC) in separate forums was done already years ago...

 

[luck11]

You should create the new 'DM 2013+ Santa Fe LWB' subforum under Veracruz forum, since that's what LWB really is, a new, renamed (due to brand recognition reasons) VC. The decision to keep the long and short WB versions of the same platform (Santa Fe vs VC) in separate forums was done already years ago...

I see where you are headed, but disagree because the new LWB has WAY more in common with the SWB (or the Sport) then the Veracruz. I think that jumping from sub-forum to sub-forum would be a bit of a pain as noted by em-squared, but doing so between 1st tier forums would be even worse. I say either leave all threads in one forum, OR create a sub-forum for LWB under 2013+ Santa Fe, not under Veracruz. My $0.02. (sorry, $0.05 since Canada eliminated the penny. )

 

[golfermack]

Thanks, but they are significantly different in many ways. The front to the B-pillar is about the same, but the rest is different, including the 5 vs 6 or 7 seating configuration, sheet metal, lights in the rear, hitch etc. Furthermore, the LWB has a 6cyl vs the 4 cyl engines in the Sport. Now, I agree that perhaps a sub forum has its disadvantages as you say, but on the other hand, it would also help "unclutter" the main forum from additional threads at are only LWB specific. Anyway, either way works for me, as long as LWB specific threads are created and not moved/merged into this one.

+1

I'm a new owner of the 2013 SFS. I love reading this forum to keep up to date on what others are experiencing with it, and to contribute with SFS related info. I have no interest in reading about items relating to the LWB. Nor do I want to plow through numerous threads only to find out they relate to the LWB, and not my car. For that reason I like only having the one thread we currently have that relates to the LWB. But that is selfish of me. I think those that are interested in sharing and reading LWB related topics should be allowed multiple threads. And better yet, their own forum as the Veracruz has/had.

I'm not interested and familiar with the LWB. But some differences I'm aware of are: pricing, engines, EPA and actual mpg, exhaust system, exterior and interior dimensions, weight, interior seating, trim lines, packages, wheel sizes, automatic headlight control (?), roof rack with panoramic sunroof, and 3rd-row HVAC controls and vents.

Thanks for chiming in Em-squared.
John

 

[pare_john]

Folks, this thread was originally started with the objective of sharing info on LWB model and its impending release.

I have been vocal about not creating duplicate threads to keep this forum management, but I wonder if the time has come, now that the LWB is out and folks are starting to fiddle with it (),to begin creating separate threads on discussions that are LWB specific and on specific issues. My concern is that lumping "everything LWB" into this thread will create a monster of a thread that will be difficult to follow when different issues and are being discussed simultaneously.

For example, I suspect the hitch for the LWB might be different from the one from the Sport given the towing capacity. Should we start a separate thread title something along the lines of "Tow Hitch for LWB" to discuss this? Or how to remove 3rd row seat in the LWB? Or replacement of tail, fog lights or bumper reflectors in the LWB? I am inclined to say yes, as long as LWB is clearly in the thread title.

However, I would suggest that where discussions exist on topics that apply to the Sport and the LWB (eg. something to do with the radio given that they are common between the two models; HID conversion which could be the same on both, or bulb replacement as most are likely to be the same on both), duplicate threads should NOT be created.

This thread can remain for general info on the model, future models, updates etc.

Thoughts? Perhaps a John, as a moderator, can provide some guidance?

I agree totally. please feel free to create new threads on specific LWB issues or questions. We can leave this one open for general talk.

As for a new LWB subforum, this has already been discussed and will not happen. It is far too similiar to the regular SF to have its own subforum.

Thanks

 

[Evolved360]

New 2013 Sante Fe Limited in Frosted Mocha with Beige Interior finally delivered this morning.

Georgia dealership was awesome enough to put us in a new 2013 Sante Fe Sport until they found a Limited that we wanted. They drove roughly 2 hrs. this morning to deliver the Limited.

My local dealership needs to take notes. I went in there 2 weeks ago to purchase a Limited from them and as I was in the process of signing the documents to sign off on the deal they let another couple come in and take the Limited I was purchasing for a test drive. My son and I waited for 30 mins for them to return, which they did not. So I grab my check and the documents and tore them up in front of the salesman and told him I hope he has a wonderful day.

 

[luck11]

New 2013 Sante Fe Limited in Frosted Mocha with Beige Interior finally delivered this morning.

Georgia dealership was awesome enough to put us in a new 2013 Sante Fe Sport until they found a Limited that we wanted. They drove roughly 2 hrs. this morning to deliver the Limited.

My local dealership needs to take notes. I went in there 2 weeks ago to purchase a Limited from them and as I was in the process of signing the documents to sign off on the deal they let another couple come in and take the Limited I was purchasing for a test drive. My son and I waited for 30 mins for them to return, which they did not. So I grab my check and the documents and tore them up in front of the salesman and told him I hope he has a wonderful day.

Well congrats!!! I am truly jealous as I await mine to arrive.

I cannot believe that your local dealer actually pulled that stunt. I would have been livid!! In fact, when I ordered mine, I expressly made it clear that I do not want anyone stepping in or driving mine when it comes it. The sales manager assured me (in writing) that my new XL will not be used as a tester or to show other customers. Good for you for tearing the contract and walking out. Hopefully they learned something.

 

[pare_john]

Ok guys, your wish came true, a new subforum for the LWB has been created!!!

 

[40Rouge]

My local dealership needs to take notes. I went in there 2 weeks ago to purchase a Limited from them and as I was in the process of signing the documents to sign off on the deal they let another couple come in and take the Limited I was purchasing for a test drive. My son and I waited for 30 mins for them to return, which they did not. So I grab my check and the documents and tore them up in front of the salesman and told him I hope he has a wonderful day.

That's INSANE! The fact that the sales man didn't put a stop to that just blows my mind. I would have been livid. I know you didn't sign the docs yet, but you were in that final stage. I'd never go to that dealership ever again.

My Limited came in on a Wednesday and I went to the dealership on that Saturday morning. My salesman took me to the back, where it was covered, with a sign saying that it was not to be touched by anyone. Treatment like that will bring me back to that dealership next time around.

 

[Evolved360]

Well congrats!!! I am truly jealous as I await mine to arrive.

I cannot believe that your local dealer actually pulled that stunt. I would have been livid!! In fact, when I ordered mine, I expressly made it clear that I do not want anyone stepping in or driving mine when it comes it. The sales manager assured me (in writing) that my new XL will not be used as a tester or to show other customers. Good for you for tearing the contract and walking out. Hopefully they learned something.

Thanks...... I know you have been waiting a while but trust me it will be here before you know it and it will be well worth the wait.

 

[Evolved360]

That's INSANE! The fact that the sales man didn't put a stop to that just blows my mind. I would have been livid. I know you didn't sign the docs yet, but you were in that final stage. I'd never go to that dealership ever again.

My Limited came in on a Wednesday and I went to the dealership on that Saturday morning. My salesman took me to the back, where it was covered, with a sign saying that it was not to be touched by anyone. Treatment like that will bring me back to that dealership next time around.

The funny thing (not really) is I told the salesman that this couple was being shown the vehicle I was there to purchase and I wanted him to make sure they knew it was sold. He went to let the other sales person know as well and the GM, guess that didn't matter because 10 min. later is when I looked up and they were gone in it. I then questioned my salesman to why he would allow this to happen. His comment was "They are only going on a test drive and they will return soon", so lets get this deal finished up..... That's when I made my move. If it wasn't for my son being their with me, I would have let them all know how I felt.

Here is where it gets even better. I live 45 min. from this dealership. The salesman calls me 30 min. after all of this happened and the first thing he says is what will it take to get you back in here to finish the deal. I laughed and told him he must be crazy if he thinks I will ever deal with them.


Congrats on you getting your Limited. Good to hear your dealership took care of you and your new ride.

 

[Evolved360]

Ok guys, your wish came true, a new subforum for the LWB has been created!!!

Thanks for the new subforum.......

 

[Seppo]

Great, thanks for the new subforum, this makes it so much more convenient to follow LWB threads (as I am only interested in that version).

Thanks for the great forum!

 

[IXEC]

Video here . . .I drove one of these last weekend, I'll post comments later . .

Hyundai Grand Santa Fe - Test Drive AutoStrada.MD - YouTube

 

[IXEC]

Move this if you need to . . but . . .